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prologic
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@osnews

> lack the words in any of the languages I know to describe the utter disdain I have for this.

How about "fuck off Microsoft" 🤣 Or even "get the fuck out"🤣
2 weeks ago
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prologic
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If this goes ahead, it will really give new meaning to "PC ownership" 🤬

Like none whatsoever 🤦‍♂️
2 weeks ago
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mckinley
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@prologic Only if you stick with legacy operating systems
2 weeks ago
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prologic
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@mckinley Well yes, true, but not my primary point. Microsoft really needs to pull their head out of their ass. Toyota, BMW, Samsung and even Apple to some extent. Companies need to understand a basic economic rule: If a customer buys your product X, they really don't expect to have to pay for (useless) service Y in order to use product X. I'm looking at you BMW and Toyota, both have attempted to do this and somewhat failed at a consumer level. I wonder why 🤦‍♂️

Now Microsoft?! C'mon. For fuck's sake. If I buy a new "today" computer of some kind. I expect to be able to use it "offline" if I want. I'm not going to be forced into paying for a subscription or handing over all my personal information to some stupid tech company that has no business whatsoever treating me as "their product".
2 weeks ago
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prologic
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This whole "data commodity" has gone too far.
2 weeks ago
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bender
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@mckinley which one would you call a legacy operating system? If referring to a previous Microsoft Windows OS, it will not be legacy for long. Granted, it might during our lifetime, but I tend to look (and often worry) a bit further.
2 weeks ago
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mckinley
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@prologic You're right, but they're not going to stop until people vote with their wallets.

@bender I'm not suggesting that people should use an old Windows version to avoid this. I'm saying that Windows in general should be considered a legacy operating system, and continued usage will only make you subject to more of this tracking and unnecessary garbage.

In other words, the situation will never improve. It will only get worse from here, so you might as well get out now while there are still plenty of life boats. Otherwise, when they do something that's really over the line, you either have to go along with it or dive right into the cold ocean.

Windows is only kept alive at this point by a lack of knowledge about the alternatives, apathy, fear, and some enterprise software and games with support in Wine improving by the day.
2 weeks ago
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prologic
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@mckinley Agreed. I'm just glad my dad has finally gotten out of the Windows ecosystem 😅
2 weeks ago
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mckinley
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@prologic What does he use now?
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prologic
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@mckinley Ubuntu
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mckinley
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@prologic Nice. I hope he likes it.
2 weeks ago
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prologic
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@mckinley He likes it enough which is good. The painful part is _some_ OSS software just really sucks ass 😢 He's found it particularly hard to find a decent "document" editor/tool he likes. He's stuck with Abiword for now, but it's not the most polished ir easiest to use. It also saves things in a really weird non-portable? format?
2 weeks ago
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mckinley
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@prologic He didn't like LibreOffice Writer? Is he used to Microsoft Word or Apple Pages? I've had success getting non-technical Office refugees on LibreOffice, specifically Writer. Most people don't need any fancy features and most things are located close enough to their counterparts on Word.

I show them how to export their documents as PDF before they share them with others and I use the (somewhat) immutability of PDFs and their portability (bundled fonts, rigid formatting, etc) to sell it. Those are two real benefits, but the main reason is that I don't trust other software to handle ODTs and I don't trust LibreOffice to write DOCXes. Although, I don't know if I really need to be worried about either of them with basic documents. It's probably worth investigating.
2 weeks ago
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prologic
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@mckinley He's actually used to Wordpad and Rich Text Format files 🤔
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