darch@neotxt.dk https://neotxt.dk/user/darch/twtxt.txt Remove
jmjl@tilde.green https://tilde.green/~jmjl/twtxt/twtxt.txt Remove
justamoment@twtxt.net https://twtxt.net/user/justamoment/twtxt.txt Remove
news https://twtxt.net/user/news/twtxt.txt Remove
prologic@twtxt.net https://twtxt.net/user/prologic/twtxt.txt Remove
rrraksamam https://twtxt.net/user/rrraksamam/twtxt.txt Remove
stigatle@yarn.stigatle.no https://yarn.stigatle.no/user/stigatle/twtxt.txt Remove
prologic
Reply to #qfch64q
@slashdot I feel like this is a bit of a common pattern? Company builds an awesome product, makes it free for a lot of users, then create additional features and paid plans, makes a tonne of money. But then later decide they need to make more money, so focus on converting the free users to paid users. Hmmm 🤔 Surely this can't be the only viable business model? 🤔
4 hours ago
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prologic
Reply to #etyv64q
@slashdot I've not gotten any such email ? 🤔 wtf?!
6 hours ago
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prologic
Reply to #ecoakoa
@xuu Yeah I'm hoping this helps keep the project going and sustainable 👌
6 hours ago
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prologic
Reply to #gxhspmq
@slashdot Saw this coming years ago when I worked for a small company that bought into VMWare as their "hypervisor" infra 😅
6 hours ago
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prologic
Reply to #ngkm4ya
@lyse Ot wow! 😮 It's that time of year for you 😆
2 days ago
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prologic
Reply to #bi76pbq
@stigatle Wow! 😮
2 days ago
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stigatle
Dragged Marlyn and our kids out tonight to see the northern lights. Never seen it with my own eyes until tonight.
2 days ago
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prologic
Reply to #3x6bsna
@darch Got an example request?
2 days ago
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darch
Reply to #3x6bsna
It need to be a proper link to the domain. And mention is linking to a profile page on the pod, so it doesn't validate.
3 days ago
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prologic
Reply to #3x6bsna
Does this make sense? Like my post will contain something like:
```
Hey @darch blah blah
```
3 days ago
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prologic
Reply to #3x6bsna
@darch But this is what I'm confused about. Why would my Twt contains a reference to `http://darch.dk/social` instead of `http://darch.dk/twtxt.txt` -- which the later is what I `@-mentioned`? 🤔
3 days ago
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darch
Reply to #3x6bsna
Yarns does not generate a link back to the site that is being mentioned (eg. `<a href="http://darch.dk/social">look here</a>`) which is needed for validating that it is indeed a real webmention, ant not just spam. Try rereading the specs😉
3 days ago
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prologic
Reply to #hdcu37a
I'm willing to get that Google™ is losing ad revenue from sponsored advertising and sponsors of Youtubers.
3 days ago
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prologic
See, even a video I was just watching on Youtube just now, the guy said:
> THanks for Surf Shark for sponsoring this video, it keeps the content free.
So that basically tells me that Google™ advertising on Youtube™ is utter bullshit. I have a funny feeling they're (Google™'s) crack-down on ad-blocker is just an internal reaction to a losing battle with their ad revenue streams in the declins from their ad business.
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As an aside @movq and I were yarning about this before... The reason this form of advertising works so well is "brand awareness". There's some interesting content, and you don't mind that the guy or gal is sponsored by some company and they happen to make mention of it and even go into a special part of their video (_without being annoying about it_). You don't even fast forward or anything because you already like their voice, and they're not being completely obnoxious about what they're promoting, and what they're promoting isn't complete garbage, malware or worse.
3 days ago
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prologic
Reply to #3x6bsna
@darch I needn an example of where this breaks down I think. Do you happen to have one? 🤔 By all rights, looking at the code paths, the issue raised really doesn't make sense to me. The Source is the Twt permalink on the source pod that contains an `@-mention` of the target's Twtxt feed. So that should validate just fine hmm 🤔
3 days ago
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prologic
Reply to #3x6bsna
@darch Hmm need to look into this 🤔
3 days ago
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prologic
Reply to #ghenmeq
@movq Same ! The most powerful form of advertising for me is word of mouth and research👌 Not ad banners which I never look at (cause I'm blind) let alone click on! 🤣
3 days ago
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darch
Reply to #3x6bsna
So this was right all along: #1156 - Webmention: a source doesn't mention the target - yarn - Mills
3 days ago
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darch
Reply to #3x6bsna
Jibii! 
3 days ago
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darch
Reply to #3x6bsna
@prologic a link header where? It also need a link from here back to the link referred in the webmention
like this http://darch.dk/social/ and @that might work
3 days ago
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prologic
Reply to #ghenmeq
@movq This whole thing is a but nutso though isn't it? 🤔 I mean seriously, online ads never worked in the first place did they?! 🤔 Or are "we" just a special breed?! 🤣
3 days ago
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prologic
Reply to #3x6bsna
@darch Yeah because it doesn't have a Link header
3 days ago
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darch
Reply to #3x6bsna
@prologic it does not😢
3 days ago
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prologic
Reply to #ghenmeq
SO now Linux GIzmos a website that I regularly like to subscribe to and read via RSS/Atom -> Twtxt has now suddenly gone down this path of "Please disable your adblocker, pretty please, because ads help support us!" 
-- Geez christ! 😱 🤦♂️ The answer is "fuck no". Not only can your ads not be trusted as you have no control over them, they can be downright dangerous too! 🤬 Fuck me 🤦♂️ Wtf is going on here?! First Youtube, now some random little site?!
3 days ago
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prologic
Reply to #ghenmeq
@linux_gizmos Oh my god! 😱 
3 days ago
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prologic
Reply to #h5kfxea
@off_grid_living What's the significance of this? 🤔
3 days ago
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prologic
Reply to #fhf5c7a
I'm also running my pod with open registrations disabled.
3 days ago
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prologic
Reply to #fhf5c7a
@darch fair enough 🤗
3 days ago
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darch
Reply to #fhf5c7a
@prologic i am, but closed open registration long along, so don't think anyone uses neotxt besides me. And with Twtxt-php/timeline I'm getting closer to pulling the plug now I got a working alternative.
3 days ago
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prologic
Question for anyone still running `yarnd` ... What would a single-user mode pod look like?
3 days ago
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prologic
Reply to #3x6bsna
If you mention @this it _might_ work, bit weird though 😅
3 days ago
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prologic
Reply to #3x6bsna
I can see that your web page https://darch.dk/social has a `<link rel="webmention" href="https://webmention.io/darch.dk/webmention">` in the page's`<head>` which his good. But that is not what you're linking to in your post, so that won't get sent a WebMention
3 days ago
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prologic
Reply to #3x6bsna
If you have a look at any of the feeds on my pod, they all respond with a `Link:` header in the response.
3 days ago
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prologic
Reply to #3x6bsna
The reason this is not working, is there is no `Link` header on your feed that you're mentiong: https://gist.mills.io/prologic/fc5290f62c07494590a7e4bc2804c126
3 days ago
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stigatle
It's weekend again, time to chill.
Weekends means family time, long hikes and late nights with the TV.
I'm done with the long walk for today, and kids are busy with friends, so now I sit on my laptop for a bit.
4 days ago
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prologic
Reply to #3x6bsna
@darch It should work with any endpoint but there's a condition around whether it fires a WebMention or not
4 days ago
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darch
Reply to #3x6bsna
@xuu thank you, but does it only work between yarnd pods or also to endpoints like https://webmention.io and does it it detect that I declared such an endpoint on darch.dk when someone mentions @sorenpeter ?
4 days ago
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darch
Reply to #3x6bsna
@prologic So I had a look at the yarnd source code, but can't say that I'm much wiser on how it send out webmention or how to send them to a yarnd pod. Can you break it down?
4 days ago
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darch
Reply to #3x6bsna
@prologic I'm trying to figure out how it works to begin with and how I can make it work with my own domain http://darch.dk -- See my questions above in https://neotxt.dk/conv/3x6bsna#jlrsduq
5 days ago
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prologic
Reply to #3x6bsna
@darch No I mean, what do we want to achieve with WebMentions that doesn't already work across pods in `yarnd`? One issue I see is adoption.
5 days ago
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prologic
Reply to #lkkzfzq
@eldersnake Bahahahahahaha 🤣
5 days ago
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darch
Reply to #3x6bsna
@prologic To outline what is needed for implementing webmetnion in a twtxt-webapp like twtxt-php/timeline or yarnd
5 days ago
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prologic
Man I"m really tired today / this week 😪
5 days ago
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prologic
Reply to #wjky32a
@shreyan Yeah I mean we created this problem didn't we? 😅
5 days ago
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prologic
Reply to #3x6bsna
@darch Thanks! 🙏 What's the end goal here? 🤔
5 days ago
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darch
Reply to #3x6bsna
@prologic here is your reminder in form of my Notes on Webmetions for Twtxt
5 days ago
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prologic
Reply to #6mynhia
@shreyan the whole thing is just super weird 🤯
5 days ago
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prologic
Reply to #wjky32a
@movq It feels like the wrong solution to a very wrong problem right?! 🤣
6 days ago
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prologic
Reply to #mavbovq
@slashdot Didn't we see this story already? 🤔
6 days ago
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prologic
Reply to #cef4pvq
@darch Haha 😆
6 days ago
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