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movq
In (old, pre-compositor) X11, windows were rectangles on screen. Every normal X11 client could query all windows and their positions. Tools like slop were easy to implement: You can use it to interactively select one of the windows on the screen, e.g. to make a screenshot of that window. slop just queries the window under the mouse pointer, it can then highlight it and read its position. Done. (slop includes more bloat/eyecandy, but that’s beside the point.)

Afaik, that’s not possible on Wayland. slurp exists but there is no standard way (yet?) for it to query the window tree. It’s different for each Wayland compositor. slurp’s README includes an example for Sway; for dwl you need this patch; and selecting individual windows probably does not work at all on labwc (because those guys try to stick only to established protocols/standards – an admirable goal).

This is just a small example. I think things like these slow down Wayland progress/adoption a lot. You could get a lot more done on X11 because the rules weren’t so strict. On Wayland, everything has to become an official protocol (that each compositor then has to implement individually) or it’s going to be an incompatible, unofficial, compositor-specific solution.

Both approaches have pros and cons. Wayland is much more idealistic than the “wild west” of X11. The price is that it takes a hell of a lot more time and energy to push things forward on Wayland.
7 hours ago
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movq
Reply to #ucly4oq
@eldersnake Nothing stops you from having two different sessions. 😏
14 hours ago
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dfaria.eu
Novo evento na #FLUP: Conferência "Migrações na Galiza: relações de género no contexto migratório galego" https://sigarra.up.pt/flup/noticias_geral.ver_noticia?p_nr=176286
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dfaria.eu
Good Morning 🎧🎵 Julia Stone - We All Have (feat. Matt Berninger) https://www.last.fm/music/Julia+Stone/_/We+All+Have+(feat.+Matt+Berninger)
20 hours ago
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movq
Even if it might sound a bit overdramatic: Having a “mostly working” dwl Wayland setup now is a huge relief. 😅 It’s quite the weight off my shoulders.

There are still lots of items on my TODO list, but if X.Org were to die tomorrow, I wouldn’t be completely screwed. Only, like, 30% screwed.
1 day ago
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movq
Reply to #5zza2eq
@bender Ha! That’s the way to go! 😃
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movq
Reply to #px274va
@aelaraji @prologic Hmm, yeah, looks a bit better than `ai.txt` / `robots.txt`, but I wouldn’t trust that they don’t spoof their user agent. 🤔
1 day ago
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dfaria.eu
New at #SocialEpistemology: Three Misrepresentations of Feminist Logic: A Response to Barceló, Franci Mangraviti https://social-epistemology.com/2024/06/20/three-misrepresentations-of-feminist-logic-a-response-to-barcelo-franci-mangraviti/
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dfaria.eu
New at #NWP: Travis Quigley (University of Arizona), “Conservatism and Justified Attachment” https://newworkinphilosophy.substack.com/p/travis-quigley-university-of-arizona
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dfaria.eu
New at #APA: Is the Law Helpful for Feminist Battles? MacKinnon and Cigarini’s Perspectives https://blog.apaonline.org/2024/06/20/is-the-law-helpful-for-feminist-battles-mackinnon-and-cigarinis-perspectives/
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dfaria.eu
Good Morning 🎧🎵 The Last Dinner Party - Nothing Matters https://www.last.fm/music/The+Last+Dinner+Party/_/Nothing+Matters
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dfaria.eu
New at #IEP: Probability and Induction https://iep.utm.edu/probability-and-induction-2/
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dfaria.eu
🤔 A inteligência artificial já sabe mentir. O que se pode esperar agora? https://expresso.pt/sociedade/tecnologia/2024-06-19-a-inteligencia-artificial-ja-sabe-mentir-tudo-e-feito-para-servir-algumas-pessoas-por-isso-esta-tudo-em-cima-da-mesa-96d0ebef
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dfaria.eu
Concurso para atribuição de Bolsa de Investigação para estudante de Mestrado: https://sigarra.up.pt/flup/pt/noticias_geral.ver_noticia?p_nr=176226
2 days ago
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movq
Reply to #ksbvcyq
@prologic And it won’t be the last. 😅 It’s inevitable at this level of complexity …
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dfaria.eu
New at #APA: The Godfather’s Mafia Meeting Scene: A Fictional Narrative of Hobbesian Contractarianism https://blog.apaonline.org/2024/06/19/the-godfathers-mafia-meeting-scene-a-fictional-narrative-of-hobbesian-contractarianism/
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movq
Reply to #ksbvcyq
@prologic I’ll grab my popcorn. 🍿
2 days ago
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movq
Lot of testing going on here today. 🤣
2 days ago
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dfaria.eu
New at #SEP: The Consistent Histories Approach to Quantum Mechanics https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/qm-consistent-histories/
2 days ago
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dfaria.eu
New at #APA: Philosophy of Language, Helen L. Daly https://blog.apaonline.org/2024/06/19/philosophy-of-language-helen-l-daly/
2 days ago
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dfaria.eu
New at #ImperfectCognitions: "I forgot that you existed": Making people responsible for their memories https://imperfectcognitions.blogspot.com/2024/06/i-forgot-that-you-existed-making-people.html
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dfaria.eu
Good Morning 🎧🎵 Rhye - Fearless https://www.last.fm/music/Rhye/_/Fearless
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movq
Reply to #ndu23qq
I meant to post a screenshot: https://movq.de/v/5d73604d79/20240618_21h09m16s_grim.png
3 days ago
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movq
Reply to #ndu23qq
Well, I have a very basic setup going now that I can use for further experiments.

In the long run, I’m going to effectively fork dwl. I’m very glad that this project exists, saves me a lot of work. I think this is the only way forward for me – any other compositor out there requires making too many sacrifices.

The big question is: How stable is wlroots (the underlying Wayland library)? There appear to be _a lot_ of breaking changes in each release, these are the last two releases:

- https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wlroots/wlroots/-/releases/0.17.0
- https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wlroots/wlroots/-/releases/0.16.0

Will I have the resources to keep up with that? Maybe it’s _still_ too early to begin this journey. 🤔
3 days ago
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dfaria.eu
New at #SEP: Democracy https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/democracy/
3 days ago
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dfaria.eu
New at #SocialEpistemology: A Reply to Fasil Merawi’s “Overcoming Eurocentrism”, Alexandra Hofmänner https://social-epistemology.com/2024/06/18/a-reply-to-fasil-merawis-overcoming-eurocentrism-alexandra-hofmanner/
3 days ago
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dfaria.eu
New at #APA: Black Feminist Theory and Praxis: An interview with Dr. Desireé Melonas https://blog.apaonline.org/2024/06/18/black-feminist-theory-and-praxis-an-interview-with-dr-desiree-melonas/
3 days ago
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dfaria.eu
Good Morning 🎧🎵 Pedro Abrunhosa - Não Vás Embora Hoje https://www.last.fm/music/Pedro+Abrunhosa/_/N%C3%A3o+V%C3%A1s+Embora+Hoje
3 days ago
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dfaria.eu
New at #IEP: Lesniewski: Logic https://iep.utm.edu/lesniewski-logic/
3 days ago
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movq
There’s hope regarding Wayland.

I’ve tried dwl a few years back, but my keyboard didn’t work. This appears to have been fixed, probably due to advances in wlroots and this commit.

And look at it: It’s just about 3000 lines of C code. *That* is hackable. That is something that I can fix, extend, or adapt if needed. *That is the way to go.*

Thank goodness, finally some good news.
4 days ago
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movq
Reply to #pdjyrka
For (my) future reference: Whether or not my keyboard works in a (wlroots) Wayland compositor depends on whether that compositor uses wlroots’s keyboard groups: https://github.com/swaywm/wlroots/pull/1771

Interestingly, this isn’t such a crazy rare scenario after all, see this comment regarding `XF86MonBrightness*`: https://github.com/swaywm/wlroots/pull/1771#issuecomment-515507790
4 days ago
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dfaria.eu
New at #APA: Where Questions Come From https://blog.apaonline.org/2024/06/17/where-questions-come-from/
4 days ago
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movq
Reply to #hgbzgaq
@aelaraji mutt has the `$header_cache` option, which might help a bit:

http://www.mutt.org/doc/manual/#header-cache

I disabled it over a year ago on my machine, because it didn’t make that much of a difference anymore. 🤔
4 days ago
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movq
Reply to #6sofs4a
@aelaraji lol, that’s mean 😂 Nah, I didn’t, but maybe I should. 😂
4 days ago
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dfaria.eu
New at #NWP: Paul Gomberg (UC Davis), "Anti-Racism as Communism" https://newworkinphilosophy.substack.com/p/paul-gomberg-uc-davis-anti-racism
4 days ago
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dfaria.eu
New at #APA: What Is Patriotism? https://blog.apaonline.org/2024/06/17/what-is-patriotism/
4 days ago
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dfaria.eu
Good Morning 🎧🎵 Jodré - conversations https://www.last.fm/music/Jodr%C3%A9/_/conversations
4 days ago
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movq
There’s the european soccer cup currently going on. I sometimes watch some of those matches. As do my neighbors.

When there’s a goal, though, it takes them a whole minute to begin cheering. That is some excessive buffering. 😂
5 days ago
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movq
Reply to #63ox4na
@lyse Whose ducks are those? 😍 And that appears to be a Yellowhammer (Goldammer) in 10, 11, 12. 👌
5 days ago
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dfaria.eu
Axioms in #logic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97Ws0aPctLo
5 days ago
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dfaria.eu
Good Morning 🎧🎵 Scorpions - Peacemaker https://www.last.fm/music/Scorpions/_/Peacemaker
5 days ago
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dfaria.eu
⚠️ Estudos recentes denunciam que pais helicóptero substituem os filhos na procura ativa de emprego: https://expresso.pt/economia/emprego/2024-06-13-pai-mae-procurem-me-um-emprego-pais-helicoptero-acompanham-filhos-as-entrevistas-dd98586a
6 days ago
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dfaria.eu
Aos putos que fizeram exames esta semana, ou que vão fazer nas próximas, lembrem-se que não é um exame que vos define. Se correr mal, paciência: https://expresso.pt/opiniao/2024-06-13-quem-confia-nas-primeiras-impressoes-e-parvo-de76118a
6 days ago
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dfaria.eu
Novo evento na #FLUP: Conferência "Política e Distinção: Uma Etnografia da Assembleia da República" por João Mineiro https://sigarra.up.pt/flup/noticias_geral.ver_noticia?p_nr=176067
6 days ago
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dfaria.eu
Good Morning 🎧🎵 Luís Trigacheiro - O Meu Alentejo https://www.last.fm/music/Lu%C3%ADs+Trigacheiro/_/O+Meu+Alentejo
6 days ago
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movq
Reply to #xia2p5q
@xuu Hello!
6 days ago
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dfaria.eu
Scientific Testimony – Philosopher Meets Critics – Gerken, Goldberg, Branch, Stegenga: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_raIcVjZ8mI
1 week ago
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dfaria.eu
New at #IEP: Protected: Test https://iep.utm.edu/test/
1 week ago
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dfaria.eu
New at #SEP: Self-Consciousness https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/self-consciousness/
1 week ago
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movq
Reply to #4mfqhoa
@lyse Every time a little bit before you play. Sometimes more. 😅 It’s easily noticeable if there’s not enough rosin on the bow, because there won’t be enough friction and the bow will begin to just slide over the strings. Sounds horrible. 😂
1 week ago
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